tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4846582609108711714.post2809603655897525865..comments2023-05-08T02:27:18.956-07:00Comments on Dallin+Katie: The End - My Take on the LOST Forever FinaleKatiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17736049937652054001noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4846582609108711714.post-69536525514536466142010-05-27T00:54:35.321-07:002010-05-27T00:54:35.321-07:00Joe's comments (2 of 2 posts):
I was surprise...Joe's comments (2 of 2 posts):<br /><br />I was surprised to find myself appreciating Jack’s arc as the most satisfying of all. When Jack became the new Jacob, it made more sense than just being “the obvious choice”. Being Jacob’s successor might have been “the obvious choice” at other times in the past I would have been totally disappointed. But, by the time it actually happened, it made perfect sense because of what Jack had evolved from. His evolution as a character surprised me, in that way. I always hated Jack. But he became something. His ups and downs weren’t for naught!<br /><br />First, we know him as “the obvious” most natural choice for a leader. But soon we saw how sour he was. He was the frustrated (and frustrating) overly-stubborn leader for most of the series. After leaving the island, he becomes completely broken and pathetic. Then, he gets back to the island and lands in Darmaville as the still frustrating person who is just as overly-stubborn but in a passive sense. Then, he becomes a near psychopathic overly-stubborn nuclear suicide bomber. Ah, but after the bomb went off, after it didn’t work and his efforts killed Juliet, he is humiliated but starts to actually become truly humble, a guy who is finally ready to be told that he's "got what it takes".<br /><br />And finally, after getting that last bit of anger out of his system by busting up Jacob's lighthouse, he started to truly become a man of real faith, as illustrated by sitting with Richard while that fuse burned toward the stick of dynamite. He was a man of humility, as shown by following Sawyers orders and getting his group to that boat. His faith was so certain that he was calm. He seemed in tune with right and wrong (this Jack would have saved young Ben Linus) as well as the higher bits of intuition that came to him, like when things didn’t feel right on the way to Hydra Island on Sawyer’s boat. He told Sawyer how he felt but didn’t put up a big fuss about it and just hopped into the water. At this point, Jack was a main of such confident faith that, unlike Locke, he was completely fearless about it. Think about Jack’s demeanor when he told Sawyer not to touch F-Locke’s bomb. “Trust me,” was all he said. Now compare that with Locke’s demeanor back in Season 2 when he told Jack to push the button. He said that Jack needed to push the button for himself but the more accurate truth is, Locke needed Jack to push that button.<br /><br />It all became so clear after the sub sunk, as Jack and Sawyer walked through the jungle to find Desmond. Sawyer was so obviously humbled. “You were right,” he said. Jack’s reply: “I’ve been wrong before.” There was simply no competition between them, none whatsoever. Look at where they were when we first met them. Look at what they became, all of them, at that point.<br /><br />And now… Hurley. As I said, I have always thought Hurley would be the next leader of the Others. While Hurley was so lovable from day one, I realized he was definitely more than that when Hurley took his own initiative by pulling the ultimate con on Sawyer, back in (I think) Season 3. "You mean you conned me into being decent!" said Sawyer. "That's the lamest con in the history of cons!" Hurley’s confidence grew from his Jacob sightings and other dead emissaries. It was fun to see him stand up to Dogen, of course. But, his confidence truly broke through to a “Jacob-potential” level when he was not told by anyone else (dead or alive) to go to Locke. And yet, on his own initiative, he led the group to Locke. The fact that the results were disastrous is not as relevant as the fact that Hurley had the confidence to execute his own idea. Being the next Jacob isn’t about being right, obviously, because we know now that Jacob was flawed. Being the next protector of the island (or the heart of the island or the cork) is about being man enough to make decisions and, right or wrong, taking responsibility for the results.<br /><br />Go Hurley!Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06492965324173502539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4846582609108711714.post-90013873784133115802010-05-27T00:52:37.273-07:002010-05-27T00:52:37.273-07:00Joe's comments (1 of 2 posts):
I have so many...Joe's comments (1 of 2 posts):<br /><br />I have so many problems with the LOST finale that I don’t know where to begin. So, instead, I’m gonna make a few positive comments.<br /><br />For years now my bet was Hurley! Even after Jack was appointed, I was holding out for him. Hah! And I was actually right! It’s nice to be right about one thing, at least. More on that at the end of this post (actually the next post).<br /><br />But first, a word on three (of many) great character arcs: Jack, Sawyer and Linus. Let’s start with Linus.<br /><br />Ben (a.k.a. Henry Gale) was unquestionably interesting form the get go. I loved when he conned Sawyer with the rabbit. But my interest in him was peaked when he did NOT kill Bernard, Sayid & Jin at the end of Season 3. Killing his father was no fun to see. However, while seeing him lose his daughter and seeing his shock at the moment was the most potent death, seeing the events that lead to him adopting her made her death and his pain even more… amazing (not quite the right word).<br /><br />But I consider Ben’s scene with Ilana (at the climax of “Dr. Linus”) to be the greatest singular moment of… humanness or humanity or redemption (not to mention acting) or something like that. It was something so good I find it hard to describe. Ben’s plea for understanding and Ilana’s “I’ll have you” line (legitimized even more by the fact that she still did not trust him after that) made me cry like a… church-crying person, which I am not! (Yea, I don’t cry in church but I cry at comic book movies. Figure that out.) Anyway, that scene was so bitter-sweet and, for whatever reason, it brought to my mind this phrase from The Lord of the Rings: “…they passed in thought out to regions where pain and delight flow together and tears are the very wine of blessedness.” Bhah! Every attempt at description is inadequate. In any case, as I experienced it (notice I didn’t say “in my opinion”), of all the scenes in the entire series, that scene between Ben and Ilana was unequaled in its pure per-second emotional potency.<br /><br />That said, up until Jack volunteered to be the next Jacob, my favorite arc of the whole series was Sawyer’s. We meet him as Sawyer, the con man who wanted to be hated by people but had his soft spots, like when he told Jack about meeting his dad in a bar in Austrialia at the end of Season 1. But the “Sawyer” alter-ego ended in almost the only way it could have: exacting his revenge and killing Locke’s dad, a guy who really did “have it coming”. I was so glad to see Sawyer puke after that. Then he was back to James Ford who was still an angry guy and I worried about him as a person, with stuff like killing Mr. Friendly the way he did and angrily slapping Daniel Faraday during the flashes. Ah, but then came LeFleur, head of security for the Dharma Initiative. His leadership was foretold by Hurley, of course. The fact that Sawyer grew into LeFleur said a wonderful thing: People can change. They can be redeemed. They can redeem themselves. They can become better. That was something you’d always hoped with Sawyer from day one, and the writers pulled it off brilliantly. It was real, not a cheat.<br /><br />-to be continued…Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06492965324173502539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4846582609108711714.post-12291149171674660322010-05-26T17:32:55.268-07:002010-05-26T17:32:55.268-07:00I like the way this guy put it: http://ask.metafil...I like the way this guy put it: http://ask.metafilter.com/154834/The-end-of-Lost-in-a-paragraph#2219987<br /><br />As we talked about yesterday it was a good end to the season, if not the whole series. But looking at the "birds-eye" view of the whole thing helped me to like the finale more.Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05933595172700387216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4846582609108711714.post-54847960441165307582010-05-26T07:43:06.057-07:002010-05-26T07:43:06.057-07:00I was satisfied with the finale. It's not high...I was satisfied with the finale. It's not high on my list of favorite episodes and did leave a lot unanswered, but I thought it ended well.<br /><br />The show became pretty spiritual, but avoided being religious. So for me things like the Light and the roles of Jacob and Smokey don't need any real-world parallels for explanation. Maybe a little more history.. but I guess to counter your point I <i>can</i> just "accept" what we have.<br /><br />Also, they said the finale on the dvd release will be 20 minutes longer. Hopefully that will include a few more answers. And I like reading through lostpedia.wikia.com, they have a ton of info that is gathered from official podcasts, Q&A's, and other confirmed sources for answers.Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05933595172700387216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4846582609108711714.post-21637185297136690472010-05-26T06:23:48.294-07:002010-05-26T06:23:48.294-07:00So glad I didn't give this series a chance :)
...So glad I didn't give this series a chance :)<br /><br />When is the 24 blog post coming??Dallinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07367595744736776660noreply@blogger.com